With the release of their new album Chewing the Fat, Franc Moody’s ubiquitous sound has become somewhat introspective. From sonic references that nod to the duo’s rich British heritage to close collaborations with friends and family to produce gripping artwork, the duo present their most personal record yet.

Maya Avram: Tell me about the creation process of Chewing the Fat. Where did the name come from?

Ned Franc: This album is probably the most raw and honest record we’ve ever done, both sonically and lyrically, which makes it the most powerful, in a way. We felt that Chewing the Fat, [meaning] general discourse — whether it be light or heavy — shows the creation process of the record.

Jon Moody: Also, it leans into the idea of sharing your process with other people. When you’re “chewing the fat,” you’re having a natter with whoever it is, addressing things with other people, with family, friends and support — [the name] is quite a nice way to turn that process into a lighter statement.

At the end of the [Into the Ether] campaign, we found ourselves slightly going through the motions, restricted in the kind of sonics we were writing and what we thought was Franc Moody. So it was time for a shift up, scale everything back and go back to the drawing board. We had a long, hard think about what we wanted to be, [revisiting] everything including the live setup. Now the band is smaller and the act is more direct, aligning with the style of writing we wanted to achieve — a bit more raw, a bit tougher, with less disco elements — and easier to digest, in many ways.

NF: Sometimes having a smaller amount of tracks, fewer elements, gives the sound a greater power.

MA: You announced the release of Chewing the Fat at the end of last year while on tour with your previous album. How much did working on it intertwine with performing previous material? Did it help in the evolution of the Franc Moody sound?

JM: It’s been interesting. The new songs are hitting nicely and it feels like they’ve come together exactly how we wanted them to. Playing the older tunes, which have an older format, required us to rework our approach. But it’s been great, it gives them a new lease of life. It’s been quite a fun process.

MA: Themes that come up throughout the album revolve around legacy, both in terms of your British identity and the development of your new sound. How do you balance that with global influences like disco and electronic?

JM: It’s something we set out to do from the word go, actually. We wanted to fit into that world while appealing to multiple cultures, have the sound be acceptable to a lot of people but not sit within the pop mainstream. We want our sound to have its quirks and characters and be as honest as possible. The British thing has worked better abroad, which is funny.

NF: People used to think we were a solo French man. All that ambiguity adds to it a certain mystique, I suppose, which is important sometimes.

JM: I mean, [when we started] the project, we were listening to the likes of Daft Punk and Jamiroquai, which have a huge global reach while the sound is very punchy, direct tunes that can be listened to anywhere. Things have morphed and changed a lot since then, but that was very much at the forefront in the beginning of the project.

MA: The album is very dreamy as well; there’s a sense of optimism to it.

JM: We rent the studio here in London from Damon Albarn, [lead singer of] Blur and Gorillaz, so we’ve got access to their synth cupboard, which is amazing. There have been a couple of weapons that we’ve dusted off from this in writing Chewing the Fat, like tough guitars and bass, more direct drums, which lend that dreamy soundscape. I don’t know about you, Neddie, but I think this record is the closest we’ve got to where we want the sound to be.

NF: When you do an album, you want to complete it knowing where you’re at in that moment, and with this one, we definitely did. This feels like a very realised project.

MA: In addition to the album release, what are you excited about for the future?

JM: Personally, I’m excited about opening up the live vessel and realising the potential of the new setup. The way it’s structured now expresses the real personality and flair of everyone on stage, and that’s an exciting thing. I hope that it can grow, and so our amazing drummer, Dan, bassist Rosetta, and Ned and I can find our personalities within that, and that it shapes the next record, too.

NF: I agree. Every record we do is like the start of a new era, a new look, a new production, a new sonic, and now new personnel as well, and this one’s the same, and we’re at the very beginning of it. So I’m excited to see where it goes and where it takes us because I feel so proud of the record. I can’t wait for people to listen to it.